WARNING: If you haven’t seen the season 7 finale of The flash, “Heart of the Matter Pt. 2”, run out of here immediately. For everyone else, let’s run full throttle with those spoilers …
They said “Yes, I do” … again!
The season 7 finale tonight of The flash It gave fans something we’ve been waiting for years to see – a renewal of the #WestAllen vote, and the ceremony was even better than we could have hoped for.
From the beautiful coral dress of Iris (Candice Patton), to the heartbreaking vows of Barry (Grant Gustin) and a surprise musical performance by her speedy son, Bart, aka the ultra-talented Jordan Fisher., This was without a doubt the sweetest wedding of the Arrowverse.
To celebrate the newlyweds, ET called The flashEric Wallace, Executive Producer and Showrunner, for an in-depth conversation about why it was time for Barry and Iris to finally get the nuptials this couple deserve.
Also, is Iris pregnant? Will Impulse return? And could season 8 be the last year of The flash? We have answers to all of your biggest questions and much more in the interview below!
ET: Congratulations! You knocked out an entire season of The flash in the midst of a global pandemic. How are you feeling?
Eric Wallace: I’m tired. [Laughs] Honestly, I just want to take a nap, but thanks for saying that. It was a labor of love – emphasis on the word work. This was the hardest season of television I have ever experienced and I think the cast and crew would probably agree. It’s not something we want to repeat, but it had the effect of bringing us all closer. Wow, we got to know each other so much better this past year! [Laughs] But it paid dividends and hopefully you will see them on screen.
We finished Season 7 with the most wonderful and happy ending: We got the West-Allen Vow Renewal! Eric, how did this idea come about and did it have anything to do with ET’s interviews with Grant Gustin and Candice Patton about a remake wedding over the years?
[Laughs] It’s funny because I think I was there when that happened and I was standing to the side for his interview at Comic-Con. But the funny thing is, I actually had that idea as did several members of the writing team and we’ve been talking about this, believe it or not, since season 4. Because the moment we saw how they got married was an afterthought With Oliver and Felicity, it’s not that we didn’t love those episodes, but we literally went back to the office after that and thought, “Yeah, we have to do that again and we have to get them a royal wedding because this just can’t be. the end “.
So it’s been on my mind for four years and I’ve been waiting for the opportunity to do it. So when I heard you interview them and say it, I’m laughing on the inside, right? [Laughs] I can’t tell you and I’m just saying, “Please just be patient, I swear, it’s going to happen! I swear, I swear!” and then you did it again and I was like, “Oh come on!” So I thought it was lovely and wonderful because I was like, “Wow, she’s on the same page as the writing staff, this is great!”
And we thought the vow renewal was great, especially since Bart seems to have inherited Barry’s incredible singing skills. Tell us about that song and how that musical moment with Jordan Fisher came about.
Two things, he had worked with Jordan before on Teen wolf And he knew how talented he was, not just as an actor, but from his Broadway experience; obviously it was in Hamilton – and I knew he could sing, so that was always on my mind. I was like, “Oh, wouldn’t it be great to have him sing once we hired him as Impulse?” But I needed an excuse for him to sing and then I said, “Wait a minute, vow renewal ceremony!” So I thought, okay, we know when he’s going to sing, now what is he going to sing? At first, the truth is that I was going to sing a cover of a well-known artist, but we will not mention that artist because we did not get the rights to that song. [Laughs]
So I was sitting in my house and I’m a great Jonah Mutono fan and I have had their album for the last year and I play it all the time, it’s on every rotation and my favorite song out of GERG it’s “1949.” It makes me cry every time I hear it because I’m a super romantic and cheesy guy. I sat there and after we found out that the song that I wanted Jordan to sing we couldn’t make it because we couldn’t get the rights, I literally turned around, I think it was 15 seconds, I said, “I know exactly what song I should sing.” And we got closer to Jonah and Jonah, in the greatest synchronicity in the world, he said, “My God, you don’t get it. I wrote this song for my best friend’s wedding. It’s meant to be a wedding song.” And he was like, “How did you know?” And I was like, “I didn’t know, I just have the feelings! I just love it.” So it’s synchronicity, it was supposed to happen. I was in the stars.
We love the fact that Iris married that gorgeous coral lace dress. How did you decide to go with that color for her?
I said, “We have to make it very clear that she cannot wear a white wedding dress.” I felt like if she wore a white wedding dress the Nazis would suddenly show up and ruin her wedding and it’s season 4 again and I’m going to have a flashback and I just can’t handle that. So once I gave the edict of no white dress, it was wide open at the time and I told Candice already [The Flash‘s costume designer] Kate [Main], “Find something you like.” And I left it to them and they showed me some options and I said, “Do you like that one?” and they said, “We love this one,” and then I said, “Go ahead! That’s amazing.” and it was that simple.
And it was so amazing to have Nora (Jessica Parker Kennedy) and Bart by Barry and Iris’s side during the vow renewal. It made the scene feel even more special. What was your goal in having the West-Allen family together for this scene?
I like happy endings. I always knew I wanted the vow renewal, and did you notice? [something different] at the end of this ending? Usually we go to the credits and there’s a tag that sets up next year’s villain, but we didn’t do it this year on purpose. I didn’t want anything to spoil the joy of that wedding. That’s what I wanted to leave everyone as a thank you because last year they had a suspense that nobody planned and it was a bit difficult and this was a gift for the audience. And he also knew that children were part of this and needed to be present. We needed the whole family there because I want this to resonate with their characters because you might see a little more of Jordan and Jessica next season and I want you to be able to refer to that event in the present tense of “Yeah I remember why I was there. “.
You ended this season with a great bow. Was there ever talk of this episode serving as the finale of the series of The flash instead of the season 7 finale?
No, but you are very clever. I deliberately wrote that scene with Kelly Wheeler, who is just a phenomenal writer, and we talked about this and said, “Look, when we get to this ending, I want her to sit with all the joy and greatness of a series finale, but It won’t be the end of a series. ” Because that means we’ve literally pushed all the drama and emotions as far as we can. Because usually the end of a show is the most tears, the most joy and all of those things and I say, “Why would we wait until the end of the show?” It has been a bad and dark year. Let’s bring some joy to the audience! And then it became a very easy decision.
Well, you know what they say, right? First comes love, then comes marriage (then vow renewal) – and then comes the West-Allen baby carriage! What are the chances of Iris getting pregnant in season 8?
Well it’s hilarious because it’s somewhat disappointing because we’ve already seen their children, so we already know that they have children, right? We already know what is going to happen. So in season 8, we have some other challenges for Barry and Iris that we need to explore that are related to pregnancy and family and all those things, but let’s not directly deal with that because it is something, I feel like, anticlimactic. We know that children already exist, it’s just a question of when, do you know what I mean? I’m not saying, for example, that next year is the end, like the series finale, but it seems like that’s the kind of thing you’d do in the series finale. Like, “Oh, she’s pregnant! The end.” You know what I mean? So I hope that is not the case next year. I want this to keep working.
Which brings us straight to our next question, which is, do you anticipate season 8 of The flash Could it be the last season of the show?
You know what’s funny, I get asked this question all the time and I honestly don’t know. We approach writing the show as if each episode is the last. Flash story that we get to tell and each season is the last. We don’t leave anything behind, so in the event of bad news being reported to us, we don’t have to pivot or anything like that. I’ll say this, regardless of what happens next year, I already know what the season finale is for next year and believe it or not it’s bigger and even crazier. Oh yeah!
I try to plan each season like a movie and you need to know the ending of your movie before you start writing it, so I have a master plan every year. We use our graphic novel format because I’m a great comic book guy and we split it into two or we split it into three or whatever and, you know, there are some interludes like there was this past year between them. But essentially, thematically, all graphic novels support and tell the same story, which leads to a unified thematic ending and that’s what we’ll be doing again next year. I hope it’s not the last one. I really hope not.
For more secrets behind the scenes of The flashSeason 7 finale, check out our exclusive interview with Jordan Fisher discussing Bart’s surprise vow renewal song in the video above.