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'RHOP's Gizelle Bryant Talks Karen Huger Truce and Sounds Off on Wendy Osefo Drama (Exclusive)

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'RHOP's Gizelle Bryant Talks Karen Huger Truce and Sounds Off on Wendy Osefo Drama (Exclusive)

A truce on this planet of Actual Housewives is uncommon, and when one does occur, it is usually not for lengthy — however Gizelle Bryant appears to assume the ceasefire between Karen Huger and her on the newest episode of The Actual Housewives of Potomac goes to stay.

“Karen and I are fine, I think,” she confesses to ET, Zooming in from her newly renovated closet. “I mean, I don’t know. She might change her mind tomorrow. Who knows? And I’ll deal with that accordingly, but as of today, we’re fine.”

The 2, who’ve been extra foe than buddy over the previous six seasons of RHOP, agreed to wipe the slate clear at a “Goddess Party” thrown by new Housewife Mia Thornton. That does not imply they’re besties, although. The 2 concurrently supplied up a “No” when co-star Ashley Darby prompt they seal their make-good with a hug. “No need for any of that,” Gizelle explains. “No need for touching. There’s COVID.”

Gizelle says she did not go into the luncheon anticipating to make amends with the Grande Dame (as she nicknamed Karen in season 1), however knew it was the properly overdue factor to do.

“I knew that we were wearing the ladies out,” she shares. “Every time we were together, it was battle royale, and the ladies were sick of it. And to be quite honest, I had been at that point bored with arguing with her, you know what I mean? So I did want us to be able to have a conversation, because up until then, we hadn’t really had a conversation. It was just kind of like, ‘F you! F you.’ It was weird. So I felt like it was high time for us to act like adults and just kind of talk and that’s what we did.”

There is a little bit of fourth-wall breaking at play, too, whether or not intentional or unconscious. On the finish of the day, Gizelle is aware of that The Actual Housewives of Potomac, the present, is stronger with each she and Karen on it. There’s by no means going to be a “winner” on the subject of their dynamic. 

Karen Huger (L) And Gizelle Bryant Visit The Siriusxm Studios On March 30, 2018 In New York City
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“The subtext was, it’s not good for the show for us to continue this exercise of disrespecting each other,” she notes. “And show or no show, it’s just not good. It’s not healthy. It’s not productive. And it had been a long time since Karen and I were just having fun together — and we do know how to do that very well — so, I just was bored with fighting with her and just needed to move on. And there was a lot that we didn’t see in that episode that I said. All the ladies, and I’m not even going to rehash it, but all the ladies was like, ‘Karen, you wrong.'”

Sure, in line with Gizelle, what made it to TV was solely about half of the dialog she and Karen had in entrance of their castmates. The second did embrace a montage of apologies Gizelle has made to Karen through the years, although.

“The editors had nothing to pull from the past of her ever apologizing to me,” Gizelle factors out. “It was high time. It was overdue. That’s why I wasn’t going to allow her to apologize to the sky or give a general apology to the group. Nope, nope.”

Gizelle’s apology from Karen lastly got here after Gizelle instructed her longtime co-star that feedback she made on the season 5 reunion about her ex-husband, Jamal Bryant, allegedly fathering a baby whereas he and Gizelle had been again collectively, deeply upset the three teenaged daughters she shares with the Atlanta-based pastor. Karen posed the query about Jamal on the reunion after then-castmate Monique Samuels pulled out a binder of “receipts” that included the rumor. Some viewers have speculated that Gizelle truly needs an apology from Monique, and is extra upset with Monique, however is popping that power towards Karen as a result of she continues to be on the present. 

“No, not at all,” Gizelle says to that. “What Karen did as it relates to Jamal and the reunion and all that nonsense was horrible, and I don’t care who you’re friends with, you have to own what you do in this group.”

Karen Huger, Andy Cohen And Gizelle Bryant At The Real Housewives Of Potomac'S Season 5 Reunion
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“Cut to the goddess lunch, and I’m like, you want to scream to all these ladies that I, Gizelle, wants to break up families? No, you were the one that decided to bring [my then-boyfriend] Sherman’s ex-girlfriend on to the show,” she continues. “So we never even hashed that out. We did hash that out. They cut it. But that was a big part of that and that was kind of like the new girls, Wendy [Osefo] and Mia were like, ‘Oh, wait a minute. Karen, you wrong.’ They’re just like, ‘You’ve got some owning up and apologizing to do because you done some dirt and you’ve never been accountable for it.'”

A part of the binder/reunion idea is born out of this fantasy that Gizelle had a meltdown on the taping final 12 months, which she denies: “If I had a meltdown, trust and believe they would have found me in the bathroom in the tub or something like that. The cameras would have been there to see that all and that never happened.”

After Gizelle bought her apology from Karen, Karen anticipated Gizelle to — to borrow a time period from Karen herself — return serve. Karen claims her youngsters had been upset by a remark Gizelle made greater than 4 years in the past on the present, after an interplay with Karen’s husband Ray. Karen believes Gizelle wished Ray lifeless, when in actuality, she made a joke about her beauty lasting longer than his life. As an alternative of claiming sorry, Gizelle instructed Karen she might have been extra cautious together with her phrases, which appeared adequate for the Grande Dame. It is nonetheless unclear why she felt the necessity to carry up the years-old, off-handed remark this season, however Gizelle has her theories.

“Let’s be clear: Karen knew it when she was saying it that I never said that,” Gizelle declares. “She just said that because she had nothing else. You know, she wanted to pull something, ‘Oh, Gizelle’s done this wrong, Gizelle’s done that wrong…’ to make herself look better with all of the nonsense that she’s done wrong, and it was just stupid. Dumb.”

“She knew that she was horribly wrong with the reunion and all that, and with other things that she’s done, and she needed something to be like, ‘Oh, well Gizelle has done this,'” she reiterates. “She should have pulled something else. She should have gone to the T-shirt. “

Gizelle Bryant Sported A T-Shirt Making Fun Of Karen Huger'S Money Woes On The Real Housewives Of Potomac
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The T-shirt is a reference to the ensemble Gizelle wore to Karen’s notorious “press conference with no press” in season 3, at which Karen known as the ladies collectively to (form of) reply questions on her and Ray’s monetary state of affairs. On the finish of Karen’s speech, Gizelle bought up and eliminated her jacket to disclose phrases like #FreeKaren, #FreeUncleBen and #TaxReform emblazoned on her tee. 

“It makes you feel like, ‘Karen, girl, you’ve been drinking and you came up with this while you was drinking,'” Gizelle remarks of her co-star’s option to repeatedly carry up the joke she made about Ray vs. a mess of different materials the Bravo’s Chat Room co-host has given her through the years. 

With the truce in place, Gizelle opted to not make good on a risk she made within the season 6 premiere: that she would expose secrets and techniques she claimed to learn about Karen over the course of filming.

“I’ve decided to be an adult and I decided that some things don’t need to be on camera,” Gizelle says. “This is some tea — which I probably shouldn’t spill — in the middle of the season, some of the producers was like, ‘Gizelle, remember you said you was going to drop some tea?’ I was like, ‘I know. I have decided that I’m not going to do that. I’m going to be…’ Some things we don’t need for the show. We’ve got enough drama, we’ve got enough foolishness and nonsense. We don’t need it.”

Now, Gizelle does caveat this by saying she “never says never in the world of reality TV,” however she has no present plans to drop any bombs about Karen. Wendy Osefo is likely to be a distinct story. The season 5 newcomer is Gizelle’s different sparring associate in season 6, with extra battles to return — despite the fact that Gizelle thought they’d squashed their beef on the Goddess occasion, as properly. Within the mid-season trailer, there is a clip of Wendy and Robyn Dixon moving into it at a launch occasion for Gizelle and Robyn’s Fairly Shady podcast. 

“I thought we was done,” Gizelle says. “So then, we get to Reasonably Shady [launch], and it’s very much shady. There was no reasonable at this party. And she came in clearly not wanting to be there. And so, like, you should stay home!”

Gizelle Bryant And Wendy Osefo Have Words At A Launch Party For Gizelle'S Podcast On The Real Housewives Of Potomac
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Gizelle and Wendy have been at excessive odds for the reason that solid’s journey to Williamsburg, Virginia, the place Ashley approached Wendy about rumors circulating in “the blogs” about Wendy’s husband, Eddie, allegedly fathering a baby with one other lady. Wendy and Eddie have denied the allegation, and her co-stars — Gizelle included — have all mentioned they do not imagine it. Nonetheless, Wendy is upset the dialog was introduced in entrance of cameras in any respect, which comes as an enormous shock to Gizelle. Whereas Wendy denies that she and Gizelle spoke in regards to the experiences forward of taking pictures season 6, Gizelle maintains {that a} cellphone name did happen, and claims Wendy spoke about all of it with Robyn, as properly, within the lead-up to filming. 

“I don’t know why she denies that. That’s just the stupidest thing ever,” Gizelle scoffs. “Absolutely, we talked about everything that had been said about her on social media. It was a rushed conversation — we didn’t talk long — we went through everything, because there’s a couple of other things that were said, and we talked about all those things. It was rushed, and she had no reaction. She did not get upset in any way. It was like, ‘Of course, I can talk about this with her on camera because she didn’t react off camera!’ Her reaction in Williamsburg was really, really shocking and left-field.”

After Ashley talked about the blogs about Eddie in a one-on-one chat with Wendy, on digicam in Williamsburg, Wendy stormed off, again to the remainder of the group and exploded on Gizelle. The Johns Hopkins professor launched in a minutes-long diatribe about Gizelle, saying partly, “I’m putting your a** on notice, because what you’re not gonna do — let’s be clear — is you’re not going to play with my husband’s name. Don’t f**k with my family. … You’ll get your a** whooped.” 

She went on to say Gizelle lacked “dignity” as a result of she had conversations behind Wendy’s again about her marriage, fairly than chatting with Wendy immediately. She additionally instructed the group, “She doesn’t understand the parameters regarding people’s husbands, because she doesn’t have a relationship that holds water.” 

Gizelle says she’s unfazed, but additionally uninterested in, the fixed use of her ex-husband and his alleged dalliances because the go-to assault in opposition to her. “It’s like a broken record. It’s just over and over again,” she says. “It’s just like, OK, ladies, let’s talk about something else.” 

Wendy Osefo And Gizelle Bryant Face Off On Season 6 Of The Real Housewives Of Potomac
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“I see you for everything everyone ever said that you were,” Wendy went on to inform Gizelle. “The life you’re living now is exactly God paying you back or all the bulls**t you’ve done. So, live in your motherf**king truth, because God is paying your a** back.”

“It’s just so second season TV rehearsed and it’s, come on, girl,” Gizelle says of Wendy’s reads. “This is Wendy at home every day, practicing in the mirror…” she provides, choosing up a lip gloss and pretending it is a microphone.

“You clearly, A) never liked me, ever. These came out real fast, and real rehearsed,” she says of the phrase vomit in Williamsburg. “You’ve been practicing, waiting for a moment for you to be able to act like I’ve done something to you, so that you could say these things. That’s clear to anyone who’s ever watched television. That’s really disturbing, disappointing. Shame on me because I really thought we were friends, and that’s not how friends act to each other, at all.”

Gizelle maintains that her intentions concerning Wendy and the Eddie rumors had been pure, or no less than as pure as issues could be on actuality TV. She introduced them up, she says, out of an actual concern for her co-star.

“I brought it up because I knew that Wendy was struggling with the social media fodder of it all, which is something that we all go through in our own way at some point,” she shares. “The vets, the OGs, we’ve been over it. We could care a less what y’all got to say out in the Twitter world. Wendy was struggling with it. That was the reason for me to bring it up to say, ‘Hey, these things are out there. I don’t believe that they’re true. Are you OK with having to deal with that?’ I’m a great person to have conversation like that with, and so it’s Ashley. That’s all it was.”

Gizelle says the primary time she talked about what are actually referred to as “the Eddie rumors” on digicam, that was the dialog she had with Ashley: to create a secure house for Wendy to discuss the ache experiences like that may trigger. Sadly, the second was solely briefly used within the trailer, not proven in full within the episode. That gave Wendy a bit extra ammo behind her perception that this was a premeditated assault on her by Gizelle, even tweeting that she discovered it odd that Gizelle would carry this up repeatedly whereas filming, however by no means to Wendy’s face.

“Absolutely not,” Gizelle fires again on the thought that she plotted to go after the political commentator. “I don’t even function that way. She sat home for four seasons and was a fan of the show. Did she ever see us sitting around plotting and planning? No, I don’t do that. What I do do — what Gizelle does do — is if there’s something out there, we’re going to talk about it. Why aren’t we talking about it? We going to talk about it. That’s what we do.”

“I did nothing wrong,” she maintains. “I was not out here being mean and malicious. I did absolutely nothing wrong. Why wouldn’t we talk about it? We’ve talked about Michael Darby, Ray Huger. We’ve talked about Jamal Bryant, we’ve talked about Juan Dixon. Why wouldn’t we talk about it?”

Gizelle says she by no means had the chance to have a one-on-one second with Wendy earlier than her blow-up in Williamsburg, and Gizelle blames that on Wendy.

“When I did see you in a space where I could pull you to the side, i.e., Williamsburg, she didn’t act like she wanted me around. I was like, ‘Girl, bye,'” she notes. “I am going to say that it was very calculated that she was always with Karen, having nothing to do with me, right? That was what she wanted. She wanted to be with Karen, filming with Karen. I think that she was cool, in the beginning of the season, she was cool with me and Robyn. She was cool with that side. And so she was trying to make an effort to be good with Karen. So her only request — because we do have production requests — was to film with Karen. I know that.”

The Season 6 Cast Of Bravo'S The Real Housewives Of Potomac
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Gizelle’s of the thoughts that Wendy turned on her to win Karen over, which is what impressed her read-a-thon at Gizelle in Williamsburg. To that, Gizelle says, “You’re welcome.”

“I have told her and I will tell her again,” she quips. “Girl, you’re welcome, because if it wasn’t for me, who would you be? You’re welcome. OK? If it wasn’t for me, all she had was a one-wick candle, and don’t nobody care about that!”

Wendy wasn’t solely upset by the dialog surrounding her marriage, but additionally by the one centered on her physique and the way in which she offered herself. Between season 5 and 6, Wendy underwent what she calls a “mommy makeover,” getting new breasts, a brand new butt and probably another unnamed tweaks. A few of the girls have speculated that Wendy bought cosmetic surgery so as to sign to the world that there was no bother in paradise, which reads as defective logic at finest. Wendy has mentioned she all the time deliberate to improve herself after she completed having youngsters. Gizelle says that is likely to be true, however she’s extra inclined to assume Wendy went beneath the knife due to the criticism thrown her approach throughout season 5 — which solely provides weight to Gizelle’s declare that Wendy didn’t deal with social media commentary about herself properly.

“I believe that she looked at her body on camera and was like, ‘Whoa, I need to fix it,’ because it looked crazy, OK?” Gizelle remarks. “Now, I’m not mad at you that you fixed your body. It needed to be fixed. Girl, I’m happy you got that done.”

Wendy Osefo Shows Off Her New Body On The Real Housewives Of Potomac
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“That has nothing to do with how she has changed, how she acts towards people and that has been always what I’ve talked about,” Gizelle provides, addressing the group-think at play that the Wendy the ladies are interacting with in season 6 is nothing just like the Wendy they met in season 5. The dialog is a bit of muddied in that the ladies are equating Wendy’s bodily change to the modifications they’re noticing in her persona, however Gizelle says these are two impartial trains of thought. 

“Like, the way that she treated Mia was horrible, the way that she’s just so rehearsed is ridiculous,” Gizelle explains, making point out of the “Zen Wen” altercation between Wendy and Mia earlier within the season at a spa day meant to have a good time Ashley’s being pregnant. Wendy bought heated with Mia as a part of a dialogue surrounding Mia’s flip-flopping tendencies (with regard to Gizelle, specifically), and spouted off, “I am Zen Wen! So, do not try to come for me, because what I do have — and what I will always have — is time. Tick tock, Mia!”

“Those kinds of things just made me feel like, ‘Well, dang! This is a whole ‘nother person than the person I met last year and I don’t like this person. This person is weird,'” Gizelle says. “I preferred somebody who was a little bit more able to have just a normal conversation. I don’t want to feel like this is an interview, or this is a debate or this is rehearsed lines that you’re spewing. All of that is very weird to me.”

“And who’s walking around giving names to themselves?” she asks. Gizelle says she’s undecided she’s ever skilled the “authentic” Wendy. In an interview with ET final week, Wendy proclaimed she “can’t wait” to confront Gizelle about all of their numerous points on the soon-to-tape season 6 reunion particular.

“Girl, fine,” Gizelle says in response to Wendy’s overrated angle headed into reunion. “Great. I don’t care. What’s so funny is people are like, ‘Oh my gosh, you have to confront Gizelle!’ People say that as if that’s a big thing, as if I care. Everyone knows, I don’t care at all. Say what you got to say. Wendy has very much disappointed me, as it relates to how she’s acting even after she has seen the episodes. You’ve seen the episodes, you’ve seen nobody is trashing your husband, and you’re still acting like an enraged idiot. It’s just extremely disappointing to see that. ‘Oh my gosh, you have to confront Gizelle.’ Girl, call me tomorrow. I don’t care.”

Gizelle says there’s been no communication both approach between she and Wendy because the season’s aired, which is ok by her.

“It’s good TV, chile,” she cracks. “I ain’t going to say nothing.”

There’s much more good TV to return in season 6, which is nearly midway via airing. The star of the midseason trailer was Mia’s husband, Gordon “G” Thornton, who appeared in a montage making a collection of questionable feedback to a few of the girls, all on the group’s subsequent solid journey.

“Do you remember somebody by the name of Michael Darby?” Gizelle asks. “He puts Michael Darby to shame.”

That is fairly the loaded tease, seeing as Michael — Ashley’s husband — has discovered himself in additional Actual Housewives drama than fairly probably some other Househusband in all of the cities mixed. 

“Gordon comes in hot, like fire-hot,” Gizelle says. “We won’t see that until our next trip, which by the way was the worst Real Housewives of Potomac trip we’ve ever taken, from food to accommodations to smells. … Everything. It was just horrible.”

It ought to be no shock that Gizelle feels that approach, although, seeing as Wendy was the host of mentioned getaway.

After the journey comes Karen and Ray’s vow renewal, which was closely featured within the “still to come” first look, thanks partly to a confrontation between Michael and Candiace Dillard Bassett’s husband, Chris. The 2 ended season 5 with a near-brawl at Robyn and Juan’s engagement occasion, and it appears this marriage ceremony is the sequel to that. Followers can thank Gizelle — and Juan — for the second.

“I don’t know whether they’re going to show this, but …. they weren’t at the same table,” she reveals. “And I had talked to Juan and Juan was like, ‘No, we got to make sure these guys hash it out.’ So I was like, OK, let me change about four people, and I switched [name cards], everybody got mad at me, but I didn’t care. It was about making sure that they had a moment.”

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It is moment-making like that, although, that has led to RHOP‘s success. In its sixth season, the present is must-see TV and bringing in series-high scores numbers, a feat that isn’t misplaced on Gizelle and her co-stars, particularly with rapper Nicki Minaj becoming a member of the web dialog this season, proclaiming her plans to take over reunion internet hosting duties from Andy Cohen. That may not occur, although, because of Nicki going public as a semi-skeptic of COVID-19 vaccinations.

“I was like, holy s**t! She can’t come to the reunion and she’s not vaccinated,” Gizelle says of the revelation, which poured out on Twitter this week. “So then I started texting people this morning, like, how do we get this done? Because, we need to get this done, OK? Somebody shoot Nicki with a vaccination, please!”

“I just want to kiki,” she cracks. “Nicki is fun, funny — she’s shady. She’s my kind of girl.”

And if the questions Nicki says she has prepared for the women have something to do with Gizelle’s fashions, she’s greater than ready to reply. The star’s ensembles are consistently criticized by viewers and co-stars alike.

“To know me is to know that what I put on my body is what I want to wear. The end,” Gizelle declares. “I think it’s funny because I know it’s all Karen-driven and I’m like, so you can’t talk about that nothing else? OK. Yeah. I totally stand by everything that I wear. Have there been some moments that I’m like, ‘Oh, that looked a mess?’ Probably, I can’t think of one right now, probably, for sure.”

“And get to my age and look like this,” the 51-year-old provides. “Then talk to me, OK?!”

The Actual Housewives of Potomac airs Sundays at 8 p.m. ET/PT on Bravo. 

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