Lisa Barlow famously requested to “roll footage” on the Actual Housewives of Salt Lake Metropolis season 1 reunion, and apparently there’s a lot extra she’d just like the viewers to see from the “casino night” occasion that sparked “caterer-gate” (as she’s calling it).
On the newest episode of RHOSLC season 2, Lisa’s longtime pal, Angie Harrington, accused the Vida Tequila proprietor of sabotaging her gambling-themed charity profit for an LGBTQ group. Angie alleges Lisa referred to as up the caterers for the celebration and instructed them to drag out on the final minute, a conclusion impressed partly by Angie’s cousin/Lisa’s onscreen frenemy, Whitney Rose. Angie says the caterers pulled out “five hours” after she instructed Lisa that she and Whitney had been hanging out.
“That is the most ridiculous accusation I’ve ever had, and absolutely not,” Lisa proclaims to ET, Zooming in from her Utah residence. “Never would I ever cancel somebody’s caterer, nor would I even think to do that. It was the most bizarre thing I’ve ever been accused of.”
Angie is new to the group in season 2, although appeared at an occasion Lisa hosted in season 1. Whereas not a full-time forged member (she’s type of a “friend of”-lite, anticipated to pop up a pair extra instances this season), she threw herself into the combo instantly — and far to Lisa’s shock, seeing as Lisa really useful her to producers as a possible Housewife for season 2.
“I had recommended more than just her for the show, [and] I think her feelings were hurt and it was a retaliatory move,” Lisa guesses of why Angie went after her as soon as cameras went up. Lisa additionally introduced the lady who would change into the present’s latest snowflake-holder (and seemingly beat Angie out for a slot on the principle forged), Jennie Nguyen, to Bravo’s consideration. Lisa says this got here up when Angie confronted her over the caterer principle, with Angie’s husband, Chris, within the room.
“One of the biggest issues, too, is he was like, ‘You brought Jennie onto the show and you’re giving her more attention,’ because I had posted a picture with Jennie the week prior,” Lisa recollects. “I was just trying to be inclusive and bring a lot of people onto the platform. So it was just a lot happening that day.”
Lisa claims there was a number of nuance left on the reducing room ground of the Angie ambush, which left her visibly shaken and distraught. She says she was “heartbroken” over all of it, and divulges she has not spoken to Angie “in months” (seemingly since this celebration, which cameras captured within the spring).
“There’s two major things here,” Lisa notes. “First, you’re my friend, and I feel like you’re accusing me of something. I was in shock. When she was explaining it to me, I didn’t know what was going on. And so to be accused of that on top of something that she knows I’m passionate about, and I am very involved in the community here for the LGBTQ community, it was devastating to me. And, unfortunately, you didn’t get to see it, but I was crying and saying, ‘You know I’m supportive of this community. You know I care about this community. Why would you say this to me?'”
“And then there was so many other things happening,” she continues. “My friendship with Meredith [Marks] was brought up. My friendship with Jen [Shah] was brought up.”
When Angie sat Lisa down to handle her suspicion that Lisa meddled together with her occasion, Angie introduced up these two relationships after Lisa famous that she discovered it odd Angie would get pleasant with Whitney, realizing the historical past between Whitney and Lisa. Angie was seemingly pointing out hypocrisy, as Lisa continued being Jen’s pal, regardless of Jen’s variations with Meredith (extra on that under). Lisa says a key remark of Angie’s did not make it to TV, although.
“Angie said, ‘I feel like Jen is coming between our friendship,'” Lisa shares. “And I’m like, ‘But I don’t talk to you about Jen. I never talk to you about Jen. You know nothing about my friendship with Jen.’ And then she said, ‘I feel like Jen is coming between our friendship, and I feel like Jen is coming between your friendship with Meredith.’ And I’m like, ‘I don’t talk to you about Jen or Meredith. They have nothing to do with this.’ So she was all over the place. It was like one issue after another. It just wasn’t catering.”
Lisa says Angie watched season 1 of the present “extremely closely,” and appears to consider the style influencer pulled out allegations like this in an try to insert herself into the already transferring prepare that’s the drama of the present.
“I think there were side conversations that happened about me that I wasn’t involved in,” she surmises, happening to counsel Whitney “coached” Angie about methods to act on this group. “And it was very frustrating for me, because Meredith and I are like sisters. I have a great relationship with Jen. And to have her trying to create problems within them, I felt like she was trying to get allies against me in her home, and that was really uncomfortable because I’m in her home.”
Lisa pulled each Meredith and Jen into the room, complicated each ladies, however made it identified she needed each there for any dialog involving them. Nonetheless, when Whitney walked into the room, Lisa requested her to depart — regardless of the Iris & Beau founder being simply as, if no more so, concerned in what was unfolding. Once more, Lisa claims the episode excluded a telling remark from Whitney.
“She walked in and she goes, ‘I got your back, girl,'” Lisa remembers. “And I was like, ‘Wait, what does she have your back on?’ So it wasn’t being a hypocrite. I’m like, ‘I see what’s happening. I’m being ambushed.’ I was like, ‘Let’s work this out. She doesn’t need to be involved. She’s not going to help with this.’ And Meredith and Jen were only there to defend what she’s accusing us of, of having bad relationships, and she knows nothing about them.”
Whitney didn’t depart, although, and confronted Lisa herself, citing a non-public alternate between Angie and Lisa that Angie had shared together with her: That Lisa had suggested Angie to “not claim” Whitney as household (Angie solely realized they had been associated when Whitney shared her lineage on the sequence premiere of RHOSLC) and to not observe her on social media. Lisa did not deny the alternate, and even uncovered herself on Twitter because the episode aired, posting the screenshot of the textual content she’d despatched Angie saying as a lot as Whitney accused of her.
“I did make a snarky comment, four months earlier,” she reiterates. “It was a silly comment. It wasn’t supposed to be something used against me later on during caterer-gate, and so that was hurtful too.”
As issues grew to become increasingly heated through the confrontation between Angie and Lisa, Whitney narrated Lisa’s habits in a confessional: “I have a PhD in Lisa’s behavior: When Lisa’s screaming, it’s because she’s being challenged. When Lisa cries, it’s because she doesn’t want to deal with it. And when Lisa walks away, it’s because she’s guilty and she’s been caught red-handed.”
“When Lisa’s screaming, it’s because someone’s talking over her,” Lisa retorts. “Lisa has no problem dealing with anything– I’m talking about myself in third person! I have no problem dealing with anything. That was so ridiculous. I have no problem dealing with things. I’m a business owner. I have confrontations every single day. I have things I need to deal with. I have people I need to make happy. We have employees. This is ridiculous. I hit things head on. I think you’ve all seen me do that over and over again.”
“If she said this to my face, I think she’d get a much different reaction. She has to say it behind my back in confessionals,” she quips. “I walked away because I was done, and I think the guilty one is calling the innocent one guilty.”
The catering firm has since come to Lisa’s protection, slamming Angie.
“[Angie] completely fabricated this story to create a storyline for herself,” chef Aubrey Niccoli wrote on Instagram. “She has falsely accused [Lisa] of sabotage. Accusing us of bad business, and it is absolutely disgusting, hurtful and most importantly false. We chose not to do Angie’s event ultimately as a business decision.”
When Angie defined the caterer’s resolution to “drop out” of her occasion, she cited textual content messages with them and claimed, “They said, ‘Lisa’s assistant called and we can’t do it anymore. We have to pull out of your event’. … The day before we had talked to them, they were stoked. Someone called them and shut it down. … They said your name in the text.”
Lisa says it is a whole misrepresentation of the dialog, happening to share screenshots of the alternate between Angie and the caterers with ET. The messages break the fourth wall, with Aubrey and her husband/enterprise associate, Marco, explaining to Angie that they’d slightly have the forged movie at their restaurant and get promotion for the brick and mortar enterprise, which is more likely to be featured with signage on TV, than present free meals for a celebration that seemingly is not going to make point out of their firm.
“Those are 100 percent the messages Angie is referencing, and I got those directly from the caterer because, obviously, my name’s dropped,” Lisa says. “I’m like, why is my name in this? I like facts. I don’t like fiction. And I definitely don’t like liars.”
Lisa laughs off the usage of a remark she made about “nothing worse than a party with no food” within the episode as only a frequent comment she’d make at any occasion. She factors to asking for “treats” at Jen’s home and references the snacks she introduced alongside together with her to the forged’s ice-fishing tour as examples that she’s all the time interested by consuming.
The Niccolis famous that they catered Jen’s occasion on the first-ever episode of the present and didn’t obtain any onscreen credit score for his or her work, which contributed to their resolution not to cater Angie’s celebration, once more, freed from cost. In addition they say they by no means dedicated to working Angie’s occasion, and solely entered into preliminary conversations together with her to grasp the scope of the potential catering order.
“I think Whitney had a conversation with Angie and we get Bartender-gate 2.0,” Lisa cracks, referencing the primary battle she ever had with Whitney. In season 1, Lisa offered alcohol and bartenders for Whitney’s vow renewal ceremony freed from cost (truly paying out of pocket for the tequila, per Utah legislation). When the bartenders turned out to be less-than-professional, breaking glass on the occasion, Whitney confronted Lisa about it — even supposing the bartenders didn’t work for Lisa and had been third-party contractors.
“I’m usually building events, so I don’t know why I would sabotage an event,” Lisa says, calling out a remark Angie made in a confessional about believing Lisa to be able to doing what she accused her of. Angie additionally mentioned Lisa “loves control,” one other remark Lisa laughs off, as she alleges Angie truly requested Lisa to take away visitors from the occasion Angie attended final season.
“I think I’m more of the peacemaker in this group, and trying to get people back together, not tear people apart or hurt people. It’s not who I am,” Lisa says. “I think that they [Whitney and Angie] were all complicit in this. They were all complicit and being naughty.”
Lisa says Whitney is the grasp manipulator in all this, not her. The 2 come head to head and begin to hash issues out on Sunday’s episode.
“You’re going to see me making a lot of effort into understanding Whitney,” Lisa teases. “I think Whitney, for some way, shape or form, holds me as her moral compass, which I’m not. I’m only responsible for me. And I think that there’s things about me that triggers something in her.”
“And I think as she gets to know me, she will understand … I take people at face value, I take them for who they are,” she provides. “And I think if the girls do the same with me, they would have a much better experience with me.”
Whitney and Lisa’s dynamic is a little bit sophisticated to dissect as a viewer, as a result of it is extra a few feeling than any particular person actions. Even Angie appeared confused by it, asking Lisa for examples of how Whitney has attacked her prior to now. Lisa pointed to feedback each Whitney and co-star/one other of Whitney’s cousins, Heather Homosexual, have made about her, describing Lisa as “dismissive,” amongst different unkind phrases.
“My name means everything to me,” Lisa says. “When you’re attacking my character over and over again– I was called nine different names at the beginning of last season — dismissive, a mean girl, a b***h, entitled — all these things. And people believed it. I didn’t get to show anyone who I am. They were told who I was, and I think they like to further that narrative.”
Two seasons in a row, Lisa’s appeared to blow the ladies off once they try to alternate pleasantries at a celebration. In season 1, Lisa supplied a drive-by whats up to Heather at Jen’s soiree celebrating Meredith’s birthday (which additionally occurred to be Lisa’s birthday). In season 2, she appeared to bypass Whitney to greet Jennie at Angie’s occasion. As soon as once more, Lisa says the viewers is not attending to see the complete expertise on display.
“I am completely not dismissive,” Lisa declares. “I did not blow Heather off. If you notice, I turned back to her and then she was already engaged in another conversation. And what you didn’t see is I sat by Heather on a sofa and I said, ‘What’s going on? How are you Heather?’ And she’s turned her back to me and said, ‘I’m just being Heather Gay.’ And I’m like, ‘What does that mean?’ And she’s like, ‘Being fabulous.’ And she ignored me the whole night.”
“She came with an objective to be icy and you don’t get to see everything,” she continues. “And with Whitney, if you notice, when I’m walking in the room, you can hear my very distinct voice say, ‘Hey, Whitney,’ and … I’m going to break the fourth wall a little bit, I had to open up to a camera. I have to turn and have face in camera, you don’t want your back to the camera. So after I hugged Jennie, I opened up and you can interpret that any way.”
As an alternative, Lisa says she is aware of Heather and Whitney to be what they accuse her of being, pointing to an alternate she had on the season 1 reunion with Heather, which seemingly occurred when Heather assumed cameras had been down.
“You’re in last place, if you don’t know,” Heather instructed Lisa. “In life. With me, for sure.”
“Heather, do you see how mean you are?” Lisa requested again. “Yes, I do,” Heather replied. “It’s a defense mechanism.”
“That’s the Heather I know,” Lisa tells ET. “That’s the Heather I’m with most of the time. I mean, there’s stuff you guys don’t see where she’s like, ‘I love jabbing you and I’m not going to stop.’ And I’m just like, OK. Keep coming.”
“I’m not the one with the PhD,” she provides, poking enjoyable at Whitney’s joke from episode 4. “Clearly she failed a lot, though.”
Quickly, caterer-gate will likely be only a blip on the RHOSLC radar, as Jen’s authorized battle is quickly to drag focus and alter the course of season 2. Federal authorities accused the truth star of working a telemarketing scheme that, in response to paperwork obtained by ET, focused “vulnerable, often elderly working class people.” She was arrested in March (as Housewives cameras rolled) and, in April, Jen pleaded not responsible to federal costs of conspiracy to commit wire fraud and cash laundering. She faces as much as 30 years in jail if discovered responsible. The season kicked off with a take a look at the chaotic moments surrounding Jen’s arrest.
“I think everybody was just in the moment living and you see a lot of raw emotions,” Lisa says. “Like, what we go through when the feds show up, homeland security, the FBI, how we’re all reacting to that. We had no time to process. Like, you’re seeing our raw [reactions]. You see us go through the roller coaster of emotions.”
“At first, I was worried,” she shares. “Then upset, then angry, then hurt, then mad. Then feeling bad for her. You’re going through all these emotions with us.”
A giant query surrounding the forged within the months after Jen’s arrest has been, why assist her? Those that do have mentioned, that is what mates do — Lisa included. Nonetheless, the higher query may be, why do they need to be mates with Jen? Almost everybody on the forged has gotten into it together with her, or been the recipient of her explosive and sometimes uncalled-for reactions. A lot of season 2’s early drama has centered on Heather and Meredith’s ache from Jen-related points stemming from the primary season.
“They have a very, very weird dynamic with Jen,” Lisa factors out. “I mean, it’s literally so bizarre. I don’t even understand it.”
Heather confronted Jen over hurtful social media posts and personal messages made concerning the Magnificence Lab + Laser proprietor, together with claims that she’s a racist in addition to repeated assaults on her bodily look. In the meantime, Meredith is holding Jen accountable for different social media posts, together with likes and shares of hateful feedback made about Meredith’s son, Brooks, who incessantly seems on the present. In each instances, Jen tried to disclaim she mentioned or endorsed any such remarks (regardless of screenshots saying in any other case), then deflected and projected — to borrow a phrase from Meredith — by bringing up ache she says she feels. She often makes reference to her two sons and life as an individual of coloration in Utah, issues that the remainder of the ladies appear to agree do not have something to do with the problems in query.
“I didn’t really know Jen Shah last year,” Lisa admits. “I didn’t spend a ton of time with her. … [But] you see a little bit of it on the show, and you can see in her confessionals: When you’re just getting ‘fun Jen,’ Jen is animated. She’s so fun. She’s a part of this group and no one wants to exclude her from this, right? Has she done hurtful things? Absolutely. I think that when she feels hurt, she matches that. Whatever she’s feeling, she gives back to you. Is it OK? No. It’s not OK. It’s not OK for anyone to be awful.”
On a latest episode, Jen complained about being made to really feel like she’s responsible for all friction within the group, and just like the apologies she’s given prior to now — most notably on the season 1 reunion — weren’t accepted, or adequate for her co-stars. Nonetheless, she additionally acts a bit like something she did in season 1 ended with season 1, and that is not the case. Lisa says to remain tuned, although, promising she is aware of Jen is able to proudly owning errors and rising.
“I’m not defending Jen, I’m an observer here,” she notes. “I think that Jen felt like, ‘I apologized for all this at the reunion.’ … Jen did a lot of mean things and they were all outed.”
Lisa says an vital piece of data right here is, a lot of what the forged is upset with Jen about in season 2 was addressed between seasons. These feedback, nonetheless, resurfaced at the beginning of manufacturing, reopening wounds Jen assumed had been closed.
“I don’t look for negative comments online,” Lisa gives, positioning herself as a little bit of an neutral celebration to this drama. “I don’t have the energy or time for it. So, I’m not looking for things people said mean about me so I can have it stashed away. I just don’t really care. But I think for other girls, it’s really hurtful and hard for them to keep reliving it.”
“Especially Meredith,” she continues. “I love my friend Meredith, and I think she was deeply impacted. I’ve known Meredith for a long time. She was a different person over the last two years. Just very angry, very upset, very hurt.”
That damage bled into Meredith and Lisa’s relationship, with Meredith alleging that Lisa needed to disregard Jen’s assaults on Brooks and refused to have a look at receipts Meredith had collected. Lisa says that is not the case.
“She sent me the [screenshots], and she sent them to me again because they were resurfacing,” Lisa recollects. “I didn’t need to see them again. I believed her the first time and I addressed it with Jen. … Meredith knows, I have talked to Jen.”
All of it got here to a head on the group’s ice-fishing day, with Lisa taking part in mediator on ice between her two buddies.
“Meredith, literally the day after ice fishing, called me and said, ‘That’s the first time I’ve slept in months,'” Lisa divulges. “She felt relieved that she could just get that off her chest, tell Jen. They had a very long, hard-hitting conversation. Jen apologized. You’ll see that Jen apologizes to Brooks coming up.”
“I feel I do a really good job of bringing the truth to light and addressing who’s in the wrong,” she provides. “For me, it’s logical and let’s deal with– I like facts.”
Within the spirt of clearing issues up, Lisa makes it identified that she doesn’t suppose her points with Heather are at an equal stage of damage because the Jen vs. Brooks of all of it, a comparability Meredith drove residence within the season 2 premiere.
“Does it carry the same weight? No,” she says. “But does it hurt? Absolutely.”
The Meredith-Jen saga is much from over, as teasers for the season promise heated exchanges between the 2 as extra details about Jen’s case involves mild. Within the first trailer, Lisa tells the group, “Meredith knows a lot,” a line that is solely added weight to the speculation Meredith helped the FBI of their case in opposition to Jen (a declare Meredith has denied, repeatedly).
“Meredith knows a lot,” Lisa repeats when requested concerning the remark. “Meredith went to law school. Meredith knows a lot. Meredith is very smart.”
And as if the entire above weren’t sufficient to make a season of Housewives must-see TV, there are additionally cult allegations to come back. Rumors circulated as quickly as Bravo introduced the forged final 12 months that Mary Cosby, the First Woman of Religion Temple, a pentecostal church, was truly operating a cult. Mary has denied these allegations, however in a sneak peek at future episodes, Lisa sits down with a former member of the congregation — Cameron Williams — who flat out says, it is all true.
“Most of us girls know Mary because Cameron,” Lisa notes. “Cameron moved here from Chicago … so when he moved to Utah from Chicago, a good way to get community, especially as a Black man moving to Utah, he went and found a church, and he found Faith Temple. And he found Faith Temple through a woman that he was dating. And she went to Mary’s church. So, that became his community here in Utah.”
“I became friends with Cameron over five years ago,” she continues. “And he hadn’t really gone into a lot about his experience with Mary, but he did tell me he had spiritual trauma and he– I mean, spiritual trauma’s real. And I feel like everything he said, I believe him. Those are his experiences. I had no other reason. I believe Cameron. Everything he said to me, I 100 percent believe, and I think it’s going to be interesting for all of you to see and hear what Cameron had to say. But one of the things Cameron said that I will never forget, and I tell my kids, ‘God is not the boogeyman. God is in everything good.'”
Cameron died three weeks after filming with Lisa.
“That’s a little emotional for me, because I love Cameron and I miss him,” Lisa shares, tearing up. When requested if believing Cameron means she doesn’t consider Mary, Lisa gives again the next: “I believe my friend a hundred percent on his feelings. Those are his feelings. Those are his feelings, and I believe that he felt all of those things. I believe that those were his experiences — and I’m not judging Mary off of anything he said. It’s, you know, I just believe my friend. And I think that’s a fair statement.”
Lisa makes it clear, too, that she didn’t intend to analyze these rumors surrounding Mary, and viewers could also be shocked at how they floor on the present.
“I haven’t dug into anything about Mary’s church,” she declares. “I’m not interested. I don’t go there. I’m not a member. It’s really none of my business.”
The Actual Housewives of Salt Lake Metropolis airs Sundays at 9 p.m. ET/PT on Bravo.
Reference from etonline