Kim and Khloe Kardashian are opening up about their family’s relationship with Caitlyn Jenner. In a clip from an upcoming episode of keeping up with the Kardashians, Kim tells both her sister and Scott Disick that Caitlyn’s supposed girlfriend Sophia Hutchins is trying to get her and Kris Jenner to get in touch to talk business.
Kris and Caitlyn were married in 1991. They retired in 2015, the same year that Caitlyn transitioned. The couple share two daughters, Kylie and Kendall Jenner.
“Mom is the one to get advice from, sure, but I don’t know where Mom’s mental space is,” Khloe says of Kris, before Scott asks about the status of everyone’s relationship with Caitlyn and Sophia.
“I talk to Caitlyn from time to time,” says Kim. “Definitely very supportive and checks in and stuff like that, but I’m very busy.”
“I talk to Sophia very rarely and Cait is probably every blue moon,” Khloe nods. “But it’s just because we’re busy, it’s COVID, there’s no beef.”
However, when it comes to her mother, Khole points out that she’s not sure if Kris wants to open that door again.
“I feel like all that dynamic has been through a lot,” he says. “I think it took a long time for Mom to get to where she is now emotionally and how she feels about everything, that I don’t know if Mom has more to give, or if Mom, emotionally, can handle that.”
In a confessional, Kim agrees that her mother “has definitely had her fair share of pain in this relationship with Caitlyn,” adding that Kris “has a hard time getting over things and it’s completely understandable.”
“I have no idea where Mom’s mental space is with Caitlyn or herself or Sophia, I don’t,” Khloé says in the confessional. “So I don’t know. I don’t know if she’s ready for that conversation.”
The clip then goes back to the sisters’ conversation with Scott, and Khloe reveals that she and her mother “haven’t talked about their position with Cait in a long time, because it’s best not to talk about it.”
“So I don’t know if this is unleashing for her … or if she’s just in the place where she says, ‘kumbaya,'” says Khloe.
keeping up with the Kardashians airs Thursdays on E!